tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-699820429313289113.post6270997675384262475..comments2024-02-02T19:29:31.953-08:00Comments on Byzantine Military: Taxes and the Fall of the Roman EmpireGaryhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09879366155439374458noreply@blogger.comBlogger24125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-699820429313289113.post-87105511754236298892017-10-26T08:36:27.046-07:002017-10-26T08:36:27.046-07:00well, I really liked it a lot !!! I will adopt the...well, I really liked it a lot !!! I will adopt these policies ... paul krugmanAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-699820429313289113.post-2374714955240081872017-10-26T06:23:42.719-07:002017-10-26T06:23:42.719-07:00I dig this piece .
Surely as we bought almost all ...I dig this piece .<br />Surely as we bought almost all europe debt , spend will be ok , so the faith of the EU , will not be the same as that of the Roman Empire.<br /><br />Mario Draggi<br />ECB Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-699820429313289113.post-75779501063371470262017-10-25T10:34:50.276-07:002017-10-25T10:34:50.276-07:00I like a lot too .I read it , as a time gap betwee...I like a lot too .I read it , as a time gap between my shows . <br />Real instructive . <br />Its like Detroit area . In all the subjets . Invasion and all .<br />Do you know Dearborn ?<br />Yes !!!<br />Now you know what i mean .<br />EminiemAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-699820429313289113.post-5761998595575375692017-10-25T03:40:37.026-07:002017-10-25T03:40:37.026-07:00nice post mr.gary
like it a lot ... and the vídeo...nice post mr.gary <br />like it a lot ... and the vídeos too <br />lack more sultresses ... please !!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-699820429313289113.post-49218616351560536642017-10-25T03:29:51.580-07:002017-10-25T03:29:51.580-07:00could you go back to English? well ... your maraud...could you go back to English? well ... your maraudersAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-699820429313289113.post-10939315567302492582017-10-24T15:29:24.495-07:002017-10-24T15:29:24.495-07:00Don`t be so harsh .
It the same all over .
Mankind...Don`t be so harsh .<br />It the same all over .<br />Mankind the same .<br />Look at China .<br />First Money , than Food , than Gamble , after that more food , then more gamble , than luxury gadgets . <br />Moral bankrupth is all over .<br />What Partia , or Sssanians got better than Romans ?<br />They collapsed too .<br />Its a revolving door , century after century .Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-699820429313289113.post-42541070189774023362017-10-24T14:16:24.460-07:002017-10-24T14:16:24.460-07:00You picture the Romans , as the West is now .
Is a...You picture the Romans , as the West is now .<br />Is a kind a strange comparison .<br />Moral decay ,and traitors inside borders .Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-699820429313289113.post-1368986424162594982017-10-24T14:12:40.028-07:002017-10-24T14:12:40.028-07:00Nice post .
I wonder if Romans had found more gold...Nice post .<br />I wonder if Romans had found more gold and silver ,they realize the better way to cope with inflation ,or they would going along with the same outbalanced trade deficit , and overburden the common tax payer , to support the military and the civil servants .<br />As a despotic society , the empire , lacking new sources of income , and a kind of moral breakdown , and decay , as Gibbons said , i reckon they would fail on it .<br />They need a more balanced trade , and a renewal economics that a stretch budget, and a misguided one cannot hold.<br />As private investors scarce , and public one fails to revive public works that would bring wealth around , they bound to fail .<br />Lack of monetary currency , and credit , inflation , trade outbalance , forced migrations on a trouble economics , equal , doom .Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-699820429313289113.post-70618170238957019302017-10-24T12:13:58.428-07:002017-10-24T12:13:58.428-07:00You both too gloomy .
That ruse , will not go alon...You both too gloomy .<br />That ruse , will not go along as far as it did for now .<br />Mark my words .<br />Inside , and outside , reaction will come to put that ruse , and conspiracy , away .<br />On the move as we speak .Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-699820429313289113.post-57777428240474808062017-10-24T12:03:26.586-07:002017-10-24T12:03:26.586-07:00You a dreamer !!!
What do you think , our world is...You a dreamer !!!<br />What do you think , our world is ?<br />A jungle .<br />A concrete , and brick , urban jungle . <br />And we all are fighting for peanuts , as others at the top of food chain , eat other more delish treats from this planet . Predators . With predatory habits of course .Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-699820429313289113.post-73629714419274042092017-10-24T11:59:07.383-07:002017-10-24T11:59:07.383-07:00on you 11.50 AM
you read my mind ...
thats all , ...on you 11.50 AM <br />you read my mind ...<br />thats all , and a lot more ...<br />a world wide conspiracy , on crime , and strange connections between chosen people to rule the world ... on an undemocratic system ...<br />and a world that people vote , or doesn`t happen , or is a farse ... that even they do not know about ... <br />well , it`s all a farcical world , that we live on ...<br />the only thing that matter to those higger above , is power , and the absolute power <br />playing Gods !!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-699820429313289113.post-23340065881716070282017-10-24T11:50:51.136-07:002017-10-24T11:50:51.136-07:00Now i understand .
And by traitors you mean those ...Now i understand .<br />And by traitors you mean those farcical radical left wingers, that even if not converted , wear ethnic clothing , and put that s***** hat , to impress the locals palookas, as too foreigners, or locals from outside religious cults , and so planning "ethnic vote catcher on then " , and incite reaction on others ... i guess .<br />A provocateur radical moron . Surely .<br />Don`t you mean as too , those traitors , who as "colaborators" , vichy , or quisling style , thrive on life by colluding with a foreign foe ? , and for money , not ideology ... the common assumption for traitors ? <br />Communists too , for both , ideology , and money ? <br />Even those who stay aside on political campaigns , victimazing themselves , or others that play tricks as an insiders moles ? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-699820429313289113.post-33072084355000146712017-10-24T11:37:45.579-07:002017-10-24T11:37:45.579-07:00to you 11.31 AM
wrong word , i mean this :
Then a...to you 11.31 AM <br />wrong word , i mean this :<br />Then as Money scarce for that ... no way to skip a forced convertion , or slavery ... ( and the few traitors from locals too ... quislings of the day ... )<br /><br />thats right now <br /><br />at 3.48 AM also :<br />As tea leafs flowers found , and then centuries ago the silk worm ... that trade no more needed , cause India replace China as a tea grower and suplyer .<br />i mean <br />As tea seeds flowers found , as then centuries ago the silk worm ... that trade no more needed , cause India replace China as a tea grower and suplyer .<br /><br />one who write fast and furious miss a lot of wrong letters ... Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-699820429313289113.post-15325738563748038252017-10-24T11:31:01.799-07:002017-10-24T11:31:01.799-07:00question to you 1.56 AM
what do you mean with :
&...question to you 1.56 AM <br />what do you mean with :<br />"Then as Money scarce for that ... no way to skip a forced conversation , or slavery ... ( and the few traitors from locals too ... quislings of the day ... )" ????Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-699820429313289113.post-71236993718026415732017-10-24T11:18:28.029-07:002017-10-24T11:18:28.029-07:00Islam is most welcome yes .
By traitors.
Good post...Islam is most welcome yes .<br />By traitors.<br />Good post Gary .Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-699820429313289113.post-45914493496516007122017-10-24T04:21:18.691-07:002017-10-24T04:21:18.691-07:00As Democracy be subverted by criminals , or Despot...As Democracy be subverted by criminals , or Despotic rulers , so the need for :<br /><br /><br />A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.<br /><br />Text of the 2nd Amendment<br /><br /><br /><br /><br />The 2nd Amendment was ratified on December 17, 1791 along with the other nine amendments that make up the Bill of Rights. While it is a very short amendment, its exact meaning in terms of what types of weapons are protected is still in contention today.<br /><br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-699820429313289113.post-27959677866217958492017-10-24T04:02:43.877-07:002017-10-24T04:02:43.877-07:00But they did not learn that , cause even most of t...But they did not learn that , cause even most of then are colluding with foreign dictatorship powers , to be more rich , and wealthy ... even if in the process they lost the country self ruling power .<br />Democracies may face beeing ruled by criminal gangs , that collude with others criminal gangs from outside .<br />The way votes must be bought to keep power is the ... spark ... and the whole beginning for the change from a real democracy , to a totalitarian regime , or a despotic one .<br />Romans Emperors at the end of the road , put all the Money in those that may kept then with power . The military ( cause they are the source for allowed violence and coercion on people ) and the civil servants ( cause they are the source for allowed violence and coercion on the people ... too ) .<br />If nothing else refrain the absolute power ... then : <br /><br />Aldous Huxley <br /><br />“A really efficient totalitarian state would be one in which the all-powerful executive of political bosses and their army of managers control a population of slaves who do not have to be coerced, because they love their servitude.” <br /><br />― Aldous Huxley, Brave New World Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-699820429313289113.post-49124138619406455512017-10-24T03:48:08.720-07:002017-10-24T03:48:08.720-07:00( from above )
The east survive , cause they pay s...( from above )<br />The east survive , cause they pay security , got more trade , and wealth , but that cannot hold so many invaders away , one the east Sassanians , or allow to keep western lands free from vandals in africa , or goths in Italy , or then the Bulgars too ... as east empire got so many borders they also need great armies , so Money , to keep away barbarians ... but thats another story .<br />As a future lesson , we may learn also with the british in China ... british carve for tea ... tea trade was a prosperous business for some ... but China only want silver for trade , not other british or foreign goods ... they got all they need ... so only silver keep trade flowing betweem Britain and the whole world , and China .<br />As silver over , british traders are shum away from coastal trade China allow trading cities . Then they found a comoditie other that silver that chinese need ... opium ... and then by the barrel of gun ships they force that on China .<br />That and chinese inner self centered conformation and backwardess on modern guns ... made China colapse too .<br />As tea leafs flowers found , and then centuries ago the silk worm ... that trade no more needed , cause India replace China as a tea grower and suplyer .<br />Inflation cause also to the colapse of Spanish-Habsburg dinasty , as silver from Peru and gold from the America scarce too , as they fight in central europe to keep an empire against the will from those they saw as heretical luterans . <br />The thirty years wars finnaly put a peace between european powers , religious foes , and then they must find other destinies , inside torn europe or outside , so a massive flow of people go to the americas , some to africa and asia to find a way to survive and prosper .<br />So the lessons of history , are there for us to see .<br />As today no matter those new ways to collect Money to put societies working , those may also bring countries down .<br />Depression , and inflation , are récipes to doom , as others to keep a farcical reality ... democracies may last shorter than we think , cause rulers don`t face the issues , and keep borrowing Money , to buy votes , to kept power ... in the process ... as the Romans ... they may lost the countries too .<br />Thats also the way also to neo-colonialism . <br />Better got fine tune economics , and self sustain monetary policy , than to be a slave from Money markets . Thats not a good récipe to keep sovereignty ... and freedom .Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-699820429313289113.post-39270797442409786642017-10-24T03:47:10.323-07:002017-10-24T03:47:10.323-07:00I listen to that conference you put it ( the short...I listen to that conference you put it ( the short 9 m version ) and that confirm what i always thought on politics , and economics .<br />As wealth going scarce in Roman late centuries , and emperors need to reinforce border legions , and the whole administration ... as monetary flows , lack hard metals , cause Spain gold mines over , and Dacia gold plunder over ... as Partia is not a war option , nor Africa , or Germania ... for gold , silver and plunder resources ... the Empire closed in on borders . <br />Trade not a option , and a bad one ( as today ) cause Romans still crave for silk, spices , and bad consumism habits ... romans gold and silver coins flip to the other side ( side who do not need roman goods ... but only hard metals , gold and silver )... and as those been more scarce ... inflation rules in . Cut the coins , or else only devalueted the roman currency , and made prices go higher in foreign and local trade .<br />But romans cannot live ... i mean ... the elites , and the ruling class..., without those bad consumism ways.<br />So "king" inflation sets in , and rules . The ruling elite need more taxes to keep troops , and the civil servants happy , and at work ... so more tax burden on everybody else .<br />Even those local tax collectors and local rulers go way cause as nobody got no more Money , they as dignataries must replace those on the emperor wishes for more tax Money .So they run away as the conference says.<br />Without knowledge for creating those kind of bonds , middle age europe creation , or another way to borrow Money from foreigners countries , or people , Roman Empire going to colapse , and more faster , as invaders from Central Asia push , border tribes needy to find security inside Roman borders .<br />They cannot cope with it , as locals life got worse , and romans got no ideia how to deal with it . So they join with foreign allies , to fight another more dangerous tribe ... and the last Money, and precious metals , and jewels , flowns to pay security border to Huns ,and others ... the land was lost to the barbarians , and as grain lands of Lybia , or egipt , lost , and the islands of Sardinia , Corsica and Sicily too ... Rome was sack, and the west part of empire colapse .<br />( follow next )<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-699820429313289113.post-52044707059404740762017-10-24T01:56:33.982-07:002017-10-24T01:56:33.982-07:00look Archduke Piccolo !!!
thats a small way to th...look Archduke Piccolo !!!<br />thats a small way to think in it !!!<br />short sized one !!! doh !!!<br />low too , far to low !!!<br />sympaty ?! ... if it did ( that i don`t believe ... althought i learn on major rift and sects at time ... but iconoclasm came after , and arianism you put it on egipt , cause in cirenaica was over after vandals defeat ), ... it was mosthly only for a short period ... and for taxes overburden reasons surely ... they didn`t know s*** from those newcomers thoughts, and ways ... only , ruse, hoax , and violence in battles ... and they tired of those , from 30 years of war between Byzantium and Sassanid Persia ... no army , no Money , and a bankrupt country ...<br />After they learn from the locals ( cause they came straight from the inner arabian desert ... mosthly ) how to build sea ships ( not small coastal rafts ) , and siege Constantinople with a massive brand new sea fleet ... and army ... and fail ... and wait till the locals translate those left greek and roman volumes in Damascus to learn how to take advantage from other people learnings , ... for their own benefit , ... then ... theres cames LUCY ?! " No siriiii !!!!"<br />Theres came hard proselitism ... or if that not work ... Jyzia !!!!!!!!!<br />Then as Money scarce for that ... no way to skip a forced conversation , or slavery ... ( and the few traitors from locals too ... quislings of the day ... )<br />A short welcome ... and a big awakening for 1400 years nightmare ... <br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-699820429313289113.post-72484340457166599402017-10-23T21:45:58.307-07:002017-10-23T21:45:58.307-07:00Interesting read. The histories I have encountere...Interesting read. The histories I have encountered certainly suggested that after the Arab conquests in the Levant, Byzantine rule was not missed by the locals. Taxation is usually given as the reason, but it might have had something also to do with the sympathy of the iconoclasm of eastern Christianity and Judaism with the iconoclasm of Islam, or perhaps religious controversies relating e.g. to Arianism. Archduke Piccolohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15533325665451889661noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-699820429313289113.post-71708314016957377662017-10-23T17:11:39.465-07:002017-10-23T17:11:39.465-07:00"They welcomed the Muslim Arabs instead, disc..."They welcomed the Muslim Arabs instead, discriminatory poll tax and all."<br /><br />This assertion isn't borne out in any of the primary sources that I know about. Certainly not in the histories of Sebeos and John of Nikiu - both of whom were from persecuted religious minorities.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-699820429313289113.post-49739878264265896332017-10-23T03:28:55.467-07:002017-10-23T03:28:55.467-07:00Its sound eary , i know , but wealth is fadind in ...Its sound eary , i know , but wealth is fadind in the west , as then happen in the east before .<br />Monetary flowns , will carried away home sovereignty rule , more or less , if dependance from borrowed Money growns wild ... as in America since the sixtees , i guess , and Greece , and Portugal now .Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-699820429313289113.post-39927618122262920072017-10-23T03:03:16.511-07:002017-10-23T03:03:16.511-07:00Good morning , Gary .
Two post in this month is no...Good morning , Gary .<br />Two post in this month is not usual .<br />This one , is one of the best you put it here .<br />Great work .<br />Even if you write it down also in other post , like that on Justinean tax spree .<br />Neverdeless pretty great and elaborate .<br />I enjoy a lot . <br />Overburden taxes are one of the ways societies colapse . <br />In US and Europe we go that way , and mosthly because taxes are not enough to rule the "democratic system" , with is goods and bads sides , freedom , and "buying votes with Money " States go to debt market as they do since Italian cities release "bonds" to support wars .<br />Now we release bonds to "buy votes" , and overburden wealth to buy even more votes , with social security perks , and services that people need and want ... and cannot understand the "quid pro quo trap that they fell in ".<br />As taxation without representation is more common now that before , cause the "Tax State Apparatus is all powerfull face the common tax payer ".<br />A system inside the system . A self ruling elite ... courted by the political powers "needed votes" of the day .<br />Forward .<br />The way Byzantine Levant and Syria collapsed is so , a "perfect social and fiscal storm " ... as you put it very well .<br />Good job .<br />The other side ... on cities , is also desserve to read . I understand that as people scarce , and power split , those cities gain more power , and the ruling class out of Constantinople gain more power too .They paid that price to found a system to rule military the whole empire , themes . But that even doesn`t work , if not , a one reason ( as many others ) as cause economic trade became less important to the wealth of the whole system .Unfortunely.<br />Byzantium miss a Senate , and that taxation without representation sound atitude.<br />We may compare Byzantium system , like the soviet one .They did not fall on the same way , but os some things , they seem alike ... absolute power , and no wealth at all .<br />The lesson to learn is that debt became a tool of war . Look that all the great powers on earth became so by lending Money , cause they became wealth powers and got the ways to put others on debt .<br />Thats so with italian merchants , with Byzantium, of British Empire before WWI , US after WWI , and WWII ... and now mighty "bond collector" China .<br />So democraties will go down real fast to doom , as they cannot fight economic grownth on goods and services , they need financial means on taxes and bonds to " walk the system as usual " , and they borrowed , on markets ... and dangerously on " the wrong ones , those who lend on political aims , of world imperialism , and neo-colonialism .<br />As Byzantium , on the near future democratic countries around the world would colapse .They are not create wealthy enough to fight back .Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com